can some one tell me what sub speices of hermann theese are please.i am pritty sure what the others are but not quite sure about theese two!!
thanks

bruce

hi Bruce i am far from an expert on this sub species(hecegovinensis)but from your pictures both these appear to have an inguinal scute which to me makes them boettgeri.im sure you need to know for certain so i would contact either egyptian dan or hermanni chris for a positive id.they may need full plastron pictures because there are other points of identification which may not be viewable in those pictures.any problems contacting Danny or Chris i will try and get a hold of them for you.

thanks terry.i wasnt sure.i thought they mite be hercegovinensis.as my boettgeri inguinal scutes are a lot more noticable.cant cant post pics on sw.do you know of an other way to get hold of them?
thanks

bruce

i will pm Danny for you see what he says

spot on thank


bruce

You have 2 T.h.hercegovinensis. About 34% of T.h.hercegovinensis have inguinal scutes, but they are much smaller than T.h.boettgeri like you thought Bruce.

Danny

thanks very much for your help Danny.also for joining the forum.without your knowledge and experience it would be even harder than it already is to keep the sub species pure in captivity.

thanks terry and dan.looks like am gonna need an other green house for next year!!!